Spider - Tigrosa helluo

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… Lynette Elliott, 29 October, 2009 - 6:14pm

Thanks everyone for the comme

Thanks everyone for the comments!

… William Hull, 29 October, 2009 - 6:56pm

Hogna

Wolf under a rock in Ohio, H. helluo?

… wolfpacksved, 29 October, 2009 - 2:35pm

I think Hogna, too

It looks like there are six Hogna spp in Ohio. They are aspersa, baltimoriana, carolinensis, frondicola, helluo, and permunda. Personally, I vote for Hogna helluo, but that choice is only based on the carapace stripe and the 'arrowhead' on the abdomen.

… Mandy Howe, 29 October, 2009 - 2:33pm

I think you're right about Hogna; my guess, too, would be H. helluo, but nothing too concrete to base that on -- permunda seems rather obscure and the others can seemingly be ruled out on basis of appearance.

Beautiful spider, I might add.

… Kevin Pfeiffer, 29 October, 2009 - 2:56pm

Spiders in Ohio

Mandy, did you get the range info from kaston.transy.edu? If so, I'm worried that we may not be getting a full picture from that (esp. since none of us are very good with the wolf spiders). H. helluo seems like a good choice, but I'm not 100% sure.

… Lynette Elliott, 29 October, 2009 - 3:16pm

Lynette, The Ohio Spider Lis

Lynette,
The Ohio Spider List which is based upon published records and survey data lists the same 6 species.
http://www.marion.ohio-state.edu/SpiderWeb/ProvisionalSpiderList.htm
Cheers,
Bill

… William Hull, 29 October, 2009 - 3:28pm

I used that same list

The list from William is actually the same list I used. I later noticed that the list is different on the BugGuide info page for Hogna. I'm never very sure about ranges and even the info I find on the internet and in books seems like it can be 'iffy' (or always changing). I'm not sure if this source at Ohio State is correct or not, but that's the list I referenced.

… Mandy Howe, 29 October, 2009 - 3:37pm

Wolf spider

Wolf spider, family Lycosidae. Maybe one of our spider authorities can give you a genus?

… Eric R. Eaton, 29 October, 2009 - 8:24am

Hogna?

A shot of the ventral side goes a long way to help IDing these.

… Lynette Elliott, 29 October, 2009 - 9:17am

Ventral....

Ok, I'll bite: How do you turn one of these over without getting bit?

… Eric R. Eaton, 29 October, 2009 - 9:59am

catch it

put it in a glass or plastic baggie. Here is an example of an image I took through a plastic bag:

… Lynette Elliott, 29 October, 2009 - 10:19am

Or a petri dish and some soft

Or a petri dish and some soft fabric or cotton wadding.

-K

… Kevin Pfeiffer, 29 October, 2009 - 2:10pm