family Lycosidae.... - Hogna lenta

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superb closeup!
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… lee garret, 5 June, 2008 - 1:08am

Moved

Moved from Hogna.

… Jeff Hollenbeck, 23 May, 2007 - 11:50pm

i think this is an adult male

i think this is an adult male Hogna helluo. should be moved to a new section

… Omar Fahmy, 4 March, 2006 - 9:42am

H. helluo?

Why do you think that this is a helluo? I found an image of this same species on floridanature.org. It is unidentified on that site also. They do have an image of an H. Helluo, and it is not this species. Before I move my image, I want to know without a doubt that it's a correct ID. This specimen is a female. I find it interesting that you're able to ID this as a male in these two images.

… Don Cadle, 5 March, 2006 - 9:43am

check out this link http:/

check out this link

http://www.marion.ohio-state.edu/spiderweb/SpiderPictures/Lycosidae/Hogna%20helluo.htm

… Omar Fahmy, 26 March, 2006 - 9:31pm

female Hogna, at least.

… Jeff Hollenbeck, 5 March, 2006 - 1:00pm

Possibly...

Great images!

It's possible that is a Hogna sp., but the image is not quite at the correct persective to say with certainty. (We would need to see the eye arrangement "head-on"). Applying a couple of keys I have access to, all I can say with any certainty is... I'm not sure. :)

Eye Arrangement:
+ If the width of PME (Posterior Median Eye) row is less than the width of Anterior Eyes Row, it is a Hogna sp. Some keys also additionally indicate that on the ant. eye row, the median eyes are larger than the lateral eyes.
+ If the width of PME row is greater than the width of Anterior Eye Row, most keys start looking at the arrangement of specific setae on Metatarsi I and Tarsus I.

Uncertainty:
From this angle, it looks like the PME row might be greater than the ant. eye row, so this would not be a Hogna sp. specimen (but it could also be a parallax in the image).
But the ant. median eye size could possibly be larger than the ant. lateral eyes, making it a Hogna sp. (Can't tell with certainty from the images.)

Hmm... So, we might never know from these images. :)

I know you are a lot more "initimate" with Salticids, and probably several other familes. An on-line key I have found useful is AMNH Study of Spiders for Blackrock Park (NY). It's good (although potentially limited in scope) for a genus level ID, noting that the species list really doesn't apply to anywhere but NY. :)

… Christopher Hunt, 24 October, 2005 - 2:42pm

Detail

Fantastic shot!

… Sue Taylor, 23 October, 2005 - 7:11am