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Orange-humped Mapleworm - Hodges#7953 (Symmerista leucitys)
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Copyright © 2005
Janice Stiefel
Orange-Humped Mapleworm Larva, 5th Instar -
Symmerista leucitys
Town of Plymouth, Sheboygan County, Wisconsin, USA
September 6, 1996
This is a 5th instar larva.
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Contributed by
Janice Stiefel
on 10 November, 2005 - 5:36pm
Last updated 2 April, 2006 - 4:56pm
Made a category
and moved image. Needs a common name. Found one on MPG plate.
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A.W. Thomas
, 10 November, 2005 - 7:28pm
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distinguishing features?
How are the larvae and adults of
S. leucitys
distinguished from
canicosta
and
albifrons
? In Canada, all three species occur from Nova Scotia to Quebec, with
leucitys
ranging farther west to Manitoba, and
canicosta
on to Saskatchewan. Adult specimens of all three are shown
here
but there's no info in BugGuide on how to distinguish the adults or larvae of these 3 species.
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Robin McLeod
, 11 November, 2005 - 5:58pm
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I just made a species page!
I assumed that Janice could distinguish the larvae; she has reared a lot of species and is obviously experienced.
We have all 3 species in NB, the only way I can separate the adults is by genitalia dissection. Never have seen the larvae.
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A.W. Thomas
, 11 November, 2005 - 8:38pm
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Symmerista species
According to the Caterpillars of Eastern Forests site, final instars of
leucitys
should have only 2 white stripes on the back. The angle of view in this photo makes it difficult to see, but I can make out at least 3 white stripes on the back, suggesting either
canicosta
or
albifrons
.
I also wonder about the several adult photos IDed as White-headed Prominent on BugGuide; so far, it seems there's an assumption that every
Symmerista
is an
albifrons
- perhaps because that's the only species mentioned in Covell's guide?
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Robin McLeod
, 12 November, 2005 - 4:18pm
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Symmerista leucitys (Franclemont, 1946)
Janice J. Stiefel The Symmerista leucitys female (found in Sheboygan Co. on 7/6/96) was verified from genitalia by Les Ferge, well-known moth expert in the State of Wisconsin. He either has the specimen in his collection or at the Milwaukee Public Museum. His ID surprised me, because using Covell's book, I thought it was S. albifrons. The larva photos are definitely from S. leucitys, no doubt. So far, I have three adult photos of this species (two were identified by Les). One, of course, is the one I sent to BugGuide, one is the adult that eclosed on 5/21/97 from the overwintering pupa of specimen from 7/6/96, and then I found one in Door Co. on 7/25/03. I finally found the S. albifrons, also identified by Les, in Door Co. on 7/20/03. Haven't seen either of them since.
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Janice Stiefel
, 13 November, 2005 - 5:01pm
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Thanks, Janice
The source & method of ID is good to know in cases like this, coupled with the knowledge that other similar-looking species of
Symmerista
exist, and that BugGuide currently has no info on how to distinguish among them.
I've added an explanatory statement to the
leucitys
Guide page
, along with a request for help. Hopefully, this will encourage input, and in the meantime, caution visitors against identifying their own photos as
leucitys
merely because they resemble yours.
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Robin McLeod
, 13 November, 2005 - 9:24pm
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Personally
I don't accept any identification of an adult
Symmerista
species unless it has been verified by genitalia examination. As great a book as Covell is, I believe he has done a disservice by not mentioning that there are another 2 species of
Symmerista
in the East that are essentially indistinguishable from
albifrons
.
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A.W. Thomas
, 12 November, 2005 - 9:42pm
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Symmerista leucitys
Janice J. Stiefel Tony, this is the same explanation I sent to Robin.
The Symmerista leucitys female (found in Sheboygan Co. on 7/6/96) was verified from genitalia by Les Ferge, well-known moth expert in the State of Wisconsin. He either has the specimen in his collection or at the Milwaukee Public Museum. His ID surprised me, because using Covell's book, I thought it was S. albifrons. The larva photos are definitely from S. leucitys, no doubt. So far, I have three adult photos of this species (two were identified by Les). One, of course, is the one I sent to BugGuide, one is the adult that eclosed on 5/21/97 from the overwintering pupa of specimen from 7/6/96, and then I found one in Door Co. on 7/25/03. I finally found the S. albifrons, also identified by Les, in Door Co. on 7/20/03. Haven't seen either of them since.
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Janice Stiefel
, 13 November, 2005 - 5:04pm
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Thanks Janice
But I never did question your ID. All I did was make a species page for
leucitys
because the image could not be left where you put it (in
albifrons
). I feel I have been unwillingly dragged into the discussion (dare I say argument) between you and Robin.
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A.W. Thomas
, 13 November, 2005 - 6:10pm
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Orange-Humped Mapleworm
Janice J. Stiefel Hi Tony! It was easier for me to send you what I wrote to Robin, just in case you needed to know. I didn't think this was an argument, it just a discussion of events and statistics. I relate what I have experienced and noted in my data base. Anyone can use it for what it's worth. I have been very careful with recording my research notes, so I speak confidently. Thanks for all your efforts. You have a remarkable website and it's very easy to use and it works pretty fast, even on our dial-up connection in the boonies.
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Janice Stiefel
, 13 November, 2005 - 6:55pm
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Duplicate Content
Just a minor suggestion (not a criticism): since the whole thread is all on the same page, there's no need to copy your reply to one person in replying to another.
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Chuck Entz
, 14 November, 2005 - 11:39pm
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