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Schistocerca camerata
Photo#37014
Copyright © 2005
tom murray
Bird Grasshopper (newly molted) -
Schistocerca camerata
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McAllen, Hidalgo County, Texas, USA
October 21, 2004
This grasshopper was pumping up it's wings. It must have just molted. Can it be identified?
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Contributed by
tom murray
on 10 November, 2005 - 7:07pm
Last updated 20 November, 2010 - 1:37pm
Forgot to comment when I changed the name on these
Turns out these are
S. camerata
, which seems to me very closely related to
S. damnifica
(I would suspect likely a southwestern variety). These are common and widespread in Mexico, but just barely sneak into the U.S.
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David J. Ferguson
, 6 February, 2013 - 9:14pm
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I decided that there are enough of these now
that it seems best to keep them all together in one place. I suspect that down the road they will all turn out to be
S. damnifica
, and to have nothing to do with the name
impleta
. For now, they are linked to the identification of one of the specimens by Song, an expert on the genus (and I could be very wrong in my scepticism).
Moved from
Mischievous Bird Grasshopper
.
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David J. Ferguson
, 20 November, 2010 - 10:17am
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Tom, you're going to love this
Now that this "
S. impleta
" thing has been pulled out of the closet, I'm back up on that fence, only it's a different name on the other side now. Because of where found, and the perhaps slightly longer antennae, this is fellow of yours is likely this "
S. ampleta
". I know little about the name yet though, and am just following others on this one so far. I'm not convinced what is being called
S. impleta
aren't just the local form of
S. damnifica
, and so for the moment I'll leave this one where it is, with this comment stuck on. There are issues with the name
S. impleta
that make me think it may be being misapplied for specimens form northeastern Mexico (and Texas), but I'll just sit tight and wait and see what develops.
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David J. Ferguson
, 15 October, 2010 - 10:56pm
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Thanks David
No matter how you got there, it was great to get the species on this unmarked individual. Now there's a data point for Texas.
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tom murray
, 28 October, 2009 - 5:56pm
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still not sure, but some thoughts
Being so "soft" and not fully filled out, it's difficult to be sure. Seeing the subgenital plate from another angle might help. However, the following things may or may not be significant in it's condition here. The front femora are relatively slender (argues against
S. lineata
). The antennae are relatively short and thick (argues against both of the ones I already mentioned). The cerci are relatively small (will they stay this way as it wraps up the hardening process??), also arguing against both of those. There also seems to be more of a median pronotal ridge than I would expect on those (again, is it an artifact of the condition it's in??). One name I didn't consider (for some reason I tend to not think of it as a south Texas species, but it is apparently there) is
S. damnifica
, and I'm thinking that may be the most likely candidate; it fits better on all counts.
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David J. Ferguson
, 27 October, 2009 - 12:19am
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Mischievous Bird Grasshopper?
David, by process of elimination it looks like you've come up with a species this is likely to be. Before I move it, I just wanted to make sure you think it's a good idea, or should it stay in the genus page?
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tom murray
, 27 October, 2009 - 8:37am
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I think I finally fell off the fence on this one,
and am pretty sure this is the proper identification. So, it seems like moving it there should be in order.
It was sort of a wishy-washy process this time though. Sorry about that.
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David J. Ferguson
, 28 October, 2009 - 5:38pm
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What there is of a pattern showing
(still kind of faint) and the shape of the cerci and subgenital plate imply that this is probably
Schistocerca obscura
. Could be
S. lineata
. It is a male.
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David J. Ferguson
, 7 October, 2009 - 9:10pm
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Larger picture
David, I just replaced the small picture with a lot larger one in case that might help with the identification.
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tom murray
, 7 October, 2009 - 9:26pm
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Schistocerca sp.
Sorry it took me so long, Tom:-) The striped eyes suggest this is a Schistocerca bird grasshopper.
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Eric R. Eaton
, 27 January, 2006 - 2:34pm
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Not much to go on
I wasn't expecting anything on this grasshopper, so that's great to get it to genus. Thanks for all the hopper id's again, Eric.
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tom murray
, 27 January, 2006 - 10:10pm
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