Moth unknown - Fissicrambus profanellus

profanellus vs. quadrinotellus

Instead of just moving this image back and forth (because someone said it was "this" or "that"), it would REALLY be appreciated if someone would add some details on how to separate these similar species. I view BG not just as a repository of images, but as a learning place.

… Chuck Sexton, 4 August, 2015 - 8:15am

profanellus

James Hayden believes this is in fact profanellus, a species he finds frequently in Florida. He says fissiradiellus is found in the Caribbean so it could be possible but all the reports he's seen from Florida have not been supported by dissection. Also, hemiochrellus records from Florida are misidentified profanellus. He has not seen any records of quadrinotellus which were supported by dissection either.

… Steve Nanz, 27 June, 2019 - 7:34am

I Agree

Dissection is required for most in this genus. I'm not sure if the quadrinotellus is found in the US outside southern TX. It is identical to fissiradiellus which seems more likely to me. This is a poor match for what I understand profanellus should look like but I'm not ready to move it here or at MPG just yet, though I would not be opposed to moving it to genus. Ditto for pretty much all the rest.

Bleszynski (1963) (1) discusses these species and notes many errors that have been made over time and further explains that there is much we still don't know.

… Steve Nanz, 12 May, 2019 - 5:13am

Moved

Moved from Fissicrambus quadrinotellus.

… Charley Eiseman, 16 January, 2011 - 10:16pm

Moved

Moved from Fissicrambus profanellus.

… Carol Wolf, 16 January, 2011 - 10:10am

How come?

Do you have new information beyond Bob's comments below?

… Charley Eiseman, 16 January, 2011 - 1:08pm

How come?

While searching MPG for something else, I came across my photo and Bob Patterson has it as 5385 Fissicrambus quadrinotellus. So I was just following suit. It looks like the others on MPG. So perhaps we are both wrong. If it is in error I am sure Bob would like to know.

… Carol Wolf, 16 January, 2011 - 4:29pm

Photo to be moved at MPG to 5431

(no rsvp, thanks)

… Bob Patterson, 16 January, 2011 - 10:15pm

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… Carol Wolf, 1 March, 2010 - 10:30am

5431 - Fissicrambus profanellus

Identification suggested by Brian Scholtens, to whom I sent the photograph. (no rsvp, thanks)

… Bob Patterson, 1 March, 2010 - 10:16am

See Note for ID by Scholtens Below

Photo at MPG will be moved accordingly.

… Bob Patterson, 27 February, 2010 - 9:51pm