Garden Spider - Araneus illaudatus

Moved

Moved from Araneus. I think this is our best choice based on habitus and range. If you see more of these this summer a good ventral view along with the dorsal view would be greatly appreciated.

… Lynette Elliott, 10 February, 2011 - 7:14pm

I guess you saw all three vie

I guess you saw all three views on page 6 of my images. Someone said they were not related but I guarantee they are all shots of the same spider. I even captured the moth the shot. I submitted them as a group together but in the dispute they were separated.

… Pete Thompson, 10 February, 2011 - 11:33pm

Hi Pete

I didn't see those images. I just looked at them, and I'm pretty sure you're talking about this one

I have seen where lighting and angle can make the same spider look very different. However, I have to be honest with you, it does not look like the same spider to me either. If you look at the legs on spider 380570 and compare them to this Araneus (376013) you can see that the Araneus has many more hairs than the Neoscona. Also, the Araneus spider has pointy 'shoulders' on the front of the abdomen while the Neoscona does not.

It appears you took these images in the dark? Without the help of the camera flash it would be very difficult to tell these spiders apart.

… Lynette Elliott, 11 February, 2011 - 9:19am

Hmmmm. It appears they are

Hmmmm. It appears they are different spiders. I am sure that a flash was required in the dark to capture 380612 wrapping a moth.

… Pete Thompson, 11 February, 2011 - 10:09am

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… John F. Carr, 19 March, 2010 - 9:09pm

Female orb weaver in the genus Araneus

Lynette has had some success separating these into A. illaudatus and A. gemmoides. Let's see what she says

… john and jane balaban, 10 March, 2010 - 4:28pm