Underlogger + small sibling

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… Solomon Hendrix, 18 December, 2020 - 5:50pm

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… Arlo Pelegrin, 15 April, 2010 - 5:08pm

I don't know if this is helpful, but

this unknown looks very similar. http://bugguide.net/node/view/383301/bgimage

Different size listed but from a swampy area also.

… scaley, 13 April, 2010 - 8:29am

Did you find it like this?

...or did you open a pupae?

I had found a tiny hymenopteran inside an Oecanthinae egg -- it also assumed the shape of the egg case. (It failed to emerge the prior season).

… Wisconsin Oecanthinancy, 13 April, 2010 - 5:56am

Free-living:

in a cluster of about 15 individuals.

… Arlo Pelegrin, 13 April, 2010 - 9:07am

Wow, how interesting

Something Hemipteran, but I have not seen anything like this. They almost look like pupae!

… Natalie Hernandez, 13 April, 2010 - 5:16am

I thought post egg Cicada?

refer to my comments under this image

Just a thought?????

… Bill Reynolds, 13 April, 2010 - 10:39am

I thought post egg Cicada?

didn't mean to double post....

refer to my comments under this image

Just a thought?????

… Bill Reynolds, 13 April, 2010 - 10:38am

Could be

Or at least something in that superfamily. Unfortunately I am out of town and do not have my books! I will look when I am back and see what clues the legs may give us.

… Natalie Hernandez, 13 April, 2010 - 2:31pm

possibly a burrowing "hopper"?

I agree it's a Hemip (Homop), but not sure which one.
There are some burrowing members in the Cercopidae, Fulgoridae, and Membracidae....another thought.

… Bill Reynolds, 13 April, 2010 - 5:23pm

Yeah I looked through Cicadoidea

Which includes Cercopidae and Membracidae. Unfortunately I did not see anything that really matched. We may be looking at a species that currently does not have any images on the guide, or we could be looking in the wrong place all together :-P Hopefully Immature Insects will have some information we can use.

… Natalie Hernandez, 13 April, 2010 - 7:48pm

Evidently there is also a possibility of Fulgoroidea.

Cixiid was also suggested.

Thus far the Hemip/Homop specialists, whom I've asked, have all been baffled by the "fossorial-looking", cicada-like fore-legs.

Because of the tiny size and presence of wing pads, we can safely dismiss cicadidae...but that still leaves several other families under either the Cicadoidea & Fulgoroidea as candidates for an id.

Really interesting little bugs!

… Bill Reynolds, 14 April, 2010 - 11:38am

Yep, that could be a possibility.

The legs are confusing me too! I didn't think this was Cicadidae and there are so many pictures in Fulgoroidea I got sick of flipping through them :-P These are awesome little guys, very interested in figuring out what they are.

… Natalie Hernandez, 14 April, 2010 - 1:37pm

It's certainly possible you will all think....

...WAY OFF. (Cuz I Sooooo am NOT an expert)....

but, any chance it's an ambush bug?
http://bugguide.net/node/view/299178

I say this while having no idea if ambush bugs oviposit or develop in soil.

… Wisconsin Oecanthinancy, 14 April, 2010 - 8:50pm

I thought the same thing

when I got the first look at it, but I'm pretty sure our Muscovite colleague would have pounced on an ambush bug nymph.

… Arlo Pelegrin, 14 April, 2010 - 9:46pm

Yeah I don't think thats it either.

Phymatinae have that really distinct abdomen, are more heavily sclerotized and the antennae are shorter and clubbed.

I am at a loss. I really think its weird the way their antennae seem plastered to their heads and look almost moniliform. Reminds me of hymenopteran pupae.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe they are pupae, maybe not from something holometabolous, but perhaps some sort of hemipteran that goes through hypermetamorphasis or something like that. These were the best pictures I could find to compare it to, these are beetle pupae though. Not a whole lot of pupae have been photographed and IDed.

… Natalie Hernandez, 14 April, 2010 - 10:04pm

Achilid nymph!! (Fulgoroidea: Achilidae)

Dr. Hamilton has identified this insect as an Achilid nymph, and when it comes to most things Homopteran (especially the "Hoppers"), he's the one to ask!

He admits the fossorial legs were a surprise, and certainly the trait that has stumped so many thus far!!

I'm not well versed in the families composing the Fulgoroidea, however, I firmly believe Dr. Hamilton has solved our mystery by giving this bug a name!

I'd like to personally thank Dr. Hamilton for his time and expertise. Information exchange is always a pleasure.

bill

… Bill Reynolds, 15 April, 2010 - 11:31am

awesome!

glad the mystery has been solved or it would have bothered me forever.

… Natalie Hernandez, 15 April, 2010 - 3:41pm