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Eleodes sp? - Cibdelis

Eleodes sp? - Cibdelis
Las Trampas SP, California, USA
January 2, 2006
Found under a log, I think it's Eleodes, but maybe its another genera in Tenebrionidae. I don't think its a Zopherid, but I'm not positive.
Thanks a lot!

Moved
Moved from Cibdelis blaschkei.

Moved
Moved from Cibdelis.

Cibdelis blaschkei
Cibdelis blaschkei is one of two species in CA and the only one in my area. Moving to species

Moved
Moved from Coelometopinae.

Moved
Moved from Darkling Beetles.

Underside views
are often vital in making conclusive IDs. I shoot quite a few underside views for that reason. I *should* shoot them for every beetle.

 
hmmm
Well, I didn't shoot a ventral shot, I can't say for certain, but I DID find them on the underside of a log, and these look really similar to your shots, I'll let you make the call as to whether it should be moved.

Cibdelis sp.?
While it could be an Eleodes, Cibdelis is more common under bark/logs, and have the slightly pebbled elytra you can see in the photo.

 
ID
So there isn't really any way to tell for sure on this picture is there?

 
Pictures?
Are there any pictures I could compare it to?

 
Cibdelis sp.
Actually there are some definite Cibdelis on bugguide, which I just confirmed. The underside of the tarsi have dense yellow pubescence, which are lacking in Eleodes.

 
Here's what Don's refering to:

 
Not to my knowledge.
Google didn't turn anything up.

 
Move it
Should we move it to a new catagory then?

Tenebrionidae.
Boy, really hard to tell beyond that. Eleodes shows lots of different body shapes and sizes, and other genera mimic them!

 
Thanks again everyone for all the imput!
I really appreciate all the help people give me with these identifications

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