Dart Moth - Hodges #9054 - Pseudeustrotia indeterminata

Moved to Pseudeustrotia indeterminata

Moved from Moths.

Tentative ID. See comments below.

… Steve Nanz, 26 September, 2011 - 5:24pm

ID Accepted

ID accepted by BAMONA

… Robert Lord Zimlich, 4 May, 2013 - 7:13pm

Robert is an editor now

He should have made his first new page. :)

… Maury J. Heiman, 26 September, 2011 - 5:27pm

LOL

How to create a new guide page was not covered in my Rookie Editor's Handbook :) BTW thanks, guys, for bringing this one out of the proverbial moth balls. This makes 19 (ignoring the moth flies) new moth taxa for Bug Guide and 376 for Alabama - in my yard.

… Robert Lord Zimlich, 27 September, 2011 - 6:47am

Didn't know

Sorry, my bad.

Congrats!

… Steve Nanz, 26 September, 2011 - 6:33pm

9054 – Pseudeustrotia indeterminata

This reminded me of Pseudeustrotia carneola (Pink-barred Lithacodia) and, looking up others in the genus, found that it seems to match P. indeterminata. An image of a live specimen would be new for both MPG and BugGuide.

I'm sending to MPG. Wait for confirmation. Since it appears to have lost some scales, I'm not sure that P. carneola can be eliminated.

… Steve Nanz, 26 September, 2011 - 4:39am

Hmmm ...

I had been thinking one of the Brocades, like the Black-banded #9404. Only I haven't found any specimens with the PM shading near the costa. Hopefully, #9054 will prove a better match. Thank you for your help.
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… Robert Lord Zimlich, 26 September, 2011 - 6:41am

Tentative Confirmation

Per Jim Vargo: "I have not seen this species but to my eye it looks like a good bet from the photos. Hindwing view and size data could clinch it."

I'll make a page for it. I think that's about as good of a tentative ID as you'll get. Nice find. If you see it again get some more shots and submit to MPG as well.

Do you have the size?

… Steve Nanz, 26 September, 2011 - 3:48pm

Size

It's been over a year ago, but I'm thinking since I posted "midget," that it must have been midget-sized. Maybe 30-32mm WS? I'll look through my RAW files and see if I still have a full-frame version to calculate from.

… Robert Lord Zimlich, 26 September, 2011 - 4:04pm