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indeterminate poppense/douglasi females (Timema indeterminate poppense/douglasi females)
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Copyright © 2010
Wendy 10
Timena sp? -
Timema
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Fairfax, Marin County, California, USA
June 3, 2010
Size: A little over an inch
Looks similar in shape to another one I've seen that was identified on this site as a Timena, but that had red legs and no stripes on the back.
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Contributed by
Wendy 10
on 3 June, 2010 - 9:52pm
Last updated 14 April, 2018 - 12:26am
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Aaron Schusteff
, 14 April, 2018 - 12:26am
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Good observations
The clear pattern of the dorsal stripes here would lead me to think this is probably
T. poppense
. But, since this is a female, it might also be the parthenogenetic "look-alike" species associated with
T. poppense
, namely
T. douglasi
.
Both those species use
Douglas fir
and/or redwood as host plants. Douglas fir is pretty common in wild parts of the Fairfax area, often growing with redwoods. And both of those are often not far from oaks, toyon, ceanothus, or manzanita, which are all hosts of the
T. californicum
in your other post:
So figuring out the host for a
Timema
in that area can be tricky, unless you actually see it feeding on the given plant (and they usually feed at night). I had a similar difficulty with in a post from the Santa Cruz Mnts below:
By the way, although the green legs here do differ from the yellowish legs (with dark brown femora) in your other post of
T. californicum
...that alone does not eliminate
T. californicum
. That's because the females of that species appear to have green legs, and the males yellowish-brown legs, as seen in the post below:
Also, I think color characters like that may sometimes be misleading in
Timema
, due to variability within species. So it's best to go by the terminalia, in conjunction with other characters (host plant, location, markings, coloring, etc.) when possible.
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