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whiskey creek outlook - Hyalophora - male

whiskey creek outlook - Hyalophora - Male
Wolf Creek, Josephine County, Oregon, USA
July 1, 2010
This is the moth that hatched from the cocoon of a caterpiller I found down on the Rogue River Canyon last year and posted here as H. colombia gloveri per Bill O's id.

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whiskey creek outlook - Hyalophora - male whiskey creek outlook - Hyalophora

i had an idea about this
think on this.
the elevation is close at whiskey creek outlook to the elevation i live and only 10 mi from me. that year the h euryalis were flying here may 15-30th or so and gone..it was a normal weather year, and i reared a whole lot of baby eurys who were all in coccons by the 15 of july.
i didnt find this cat till the 28 of july, at which time all the eurys should have been gone and this was a tiny cat when i found it a 3rd instar fresh molted. perhaps it is the time of emergance that is keeping them seperate. ???????????? if they dont fly till july and the last of the eurys have flown by mid june..see what im saying?

Very nice moth
In discussion with several Saturniid/Hyalophora specialists, this moth is an enigma, and seems to be either an oddity or originate from an isolated enclave population surrounded by typical euryalus.

Interestingly, with the exception of cecropia and columbia, in areas of sympatry, other Hyalophora taxa will "mix". It is unusual that this insect is distinctly "gloveri" in appearance; however, phenotypes strongly resembling the moth above have been recorded in areas occupied by typical euryalus.

Given the genetic relationships and propensity to interbreed - among columbia, gloveri, and euryalus - it is unlikely populations can exist sympatrically without blending unless isolated by terrain or some other barrier, hence this moth and others like it are enigmatic and such records are certainly valuable.

Given past discussions, the nature of this moth's origin, phenotypology, and debated id., additional images + a couple images of this moth's cocoon would help (We could certainly use images of the cocoon from which this particular insect eclosed since cocoon morphology is also diagnostic within this Genus)....If you can obtain copies of your original images of the larva, those would also be helpful....please incl. as many pic's of this insect as you can provide & it's various life stages - and in the future, please do not delete images because someone disagrees with an id ;)

Additional specimens from the Rogue River locality may be necessary to determine exactly what is going on in your area ;)

Thanks

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