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Coyote Brush Bud Gall Midge (Rhopalomyia californica)
Photo#456867
Copyright © 2010
PeteHoban
Unknown insect -
Rhopalomyia californica
Stanford, San Mateo County, California, USA
September 19, 2010
Size: <1 cm
Unknown insect on egg case.
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Contributed by
PeteHoban
on 20 September, 2010 - 1:05am
Last updated 22 September, 2010 - 6:54am
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Charley Eiseman
, 22 September, 2010 - 6:54am
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Moved
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Torymus koebelei
. Better yet, let's get the gall IDed and move to the proper page leaving them linked.
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John R. Maxwell
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:20am
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Gall-maker?
Now that you have an ID for the wasp oviposting on the gall, it would be worthwhile to repost this photo of the gall (being sure to include the host plant information of being a scrub oak) in ID Request to see what insect made the gall now being parasitized.
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John Pearson
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:19am
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Scrub oak?
My contact says that the gall doesn't look like an oak gall, but if there was really an association with oak, then the ID might need to be revised.
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Bob Carlson
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:33am
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Plant ID
The scrub oak ID is from Pete's comment on the other photo in this pair. I'm not sufficiently familiar with California oaks to ID it myself. Pete, do you mean Scrub Oak (formal common name for
Quercus dumosa
or
Q. berberidifolia
)? If the host plant needs an ID, a view of an ungalled leaf would be helpful in identifying it to species, which could in turn help to identify the gall-maker.
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John Pearson
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:56am
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Not a gall?
To me this looks like a hardened, frothy secretion--something like a mantid ootheca--applied to a normally formed plant. Pete, do you have any other shots of this object, and/or an estimate of its size?
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Charley Eiseman
, 21 September, 2010 - 3:05pm
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Gall after all?
I explored the possibility of this being a gall and found a similar-looking one:
The gall looks similar, as do the toothed leaves of the plant, which is identified as Coyotebrush
(
Baccharis pilularis
)
; in turn, that is consistent with Bob Carlson's comments on the first photo of this pair.
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John Pearson
, 21 September, 2010 - 10:48pm
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Ah, very nice.
I thought the plant was coyotebrush too, but when I did I quick online image search, the leaves I saw didn't match, so I figured I must have misremembered what they look like. This must be a
Rhopalomyia californica
gall too, though I don't understand why the tissue has that transparent, bubbly appearance.
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Charley Eiseman
, 22 September, 2010 - 6:52am
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Variable leaves
Yes, I encountered the same problem when most of the online images of Coyote Brush showed smooth, rounded margins...until I did find the toothed ones that I posted above. One additional element of confusion is that the toothed leaves of Coyote Brush look similar to those of Scrub Oak! FYI, here is a link to USDA Forest Service
profile
of this shrub species that mentions both the variable leaf shape and the midge gall.
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John Pearson
, 22 September, 2010 - 8:11am
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Sounds like you've nailed it. I am told that the maker of the gall would presumably be
Rhopalomyia californica
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Bob Carlson
, 22 September, 2010 - 10:18am
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Sorry for the delay. It coul
Sorry for the delay. It could have been Coyotebrush. It was a small dense clustering of plants around a water fountain, including scrub oak, coyotebrush, blue oak, live oak, and another unidentified scrub. I thought the twig was from one of the scrub oaks, but could have easily have been from a coyotebrush plant that has poked through. Thanks for the help.
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PeteHoban
, 22 September, 2010 - 12:37pm
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Whatever the torymid is, I am told that it has the violaceous coloration of
koebelei
, but if the gall or non-gall or whatever is really on oak, it might be an undescribed species rather than
koebelei
.
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Bob Carlson
, 21 September, 2010 - 4:59pm
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Bob Carlson
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:12am
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Gall?
Looks like an insect gall that has consumed most of the blade of the leaf. It would be helpful to know the host plant species.
Edit:
Looking closer at your photo, it appears that the gall engulfs several leaves, not just one, so might be a twig gall or bud gall.
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John Pearson
, 20 September, 2010 - 11:02am
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