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Phyllocnistis liriodendronella - Hodges#0849 (Phyllocnistis liriodendronella)
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Copyright © 2011
Charley Eiseman
Phyllocnistis liriodendronella
Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts, USA
July 2, 2011
Emerged from a
leaf mine in
Liriodendron tulipifera
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Contributed by
Charley Eiseman
on 26 November, 2011 - 2:18pm
Last updated 11 December, 2012 - 7:45am
ID Question
I found a similar example and posted it under
P. liriodendronella
here
but I am now having second thoughts. After seeing images at BOLD under
P. longipalpus
and
P. magnoliella
, I'm not sure how to eliminate either as a possibilities even after reading your description reference. Not sure what the leaf was from in my example (I was looking around some Linden Trees around that time) but there are Tulip Trees in the area.
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Steve Nanz
, 5 June, 2012 - 4:08am
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Distinguishing Phyllocnistis spp...
in general requires dissection and/or rearing.
P. longipalpa
(misspelled on BOLD) can be eliminated because it is only known from Florida, mining in a tree related to avocado.
According to Forbes (1923), which is cited as the original description for
magnoliella
even though the latter name was first used by Chambers decades earlier,
liriodendronella
and
magnoliella
are the only two species in NY with a longitudinal golden streak from base to middle. In
liriodendronella
the streak is partly edged with black; in
magnoliella
it is not at all edged with black. So based on that your ID is correct.
Incidentally, the only indication I have seen that these two species are not 100% faithful to their respective host plants is that Darlington (1945, Ent. News, p. 92), under the heading "
Phyllocnistis liriodendronella
Clemens and
Phyllocnistis magnoliella
Chambers," says: I have specimens reared on
Liriodendron tulipifera
and on
Magnolia virginiana
and cannot distinguish between them." -- but he doesn't describe the adults at all, so there is no way to know what he was looking at. I've seen
Phyllocnistis
mines in a magnolia bush 40 feet from my tuliptree, but haven't had a chance to rear them yet.
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Charley Eiseman
, 5 June, 2012 - 7:24am
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BOLD Data
Davis & Wagner (2011)
, p. 44, lists three specimens of
longipalpa
. They have nearly identical barcodes and there are many specimens from as far north as Maryland with identical or nearly identical barcodes. Davis & Wagner compare barcodes to other
Persea
feeders but oddly do not mention
magnoliella
or
liriodendronella
as far as I can tell. The range of
Persea borbonia
, the host of
longipalpa
, extends from Florida west to Texas and north to Delaware according to the Wikipedia range map. But I'm not sure that's relevant because the specimens are mostly near the Appalachians and specimens from Ontario appear to barcode very close.
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Steve Nanz
, 8 February, 2020 - 4:50pm
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I wish I had unlimited (or any) funds for barcoding
It would be reasonable for
liriodendronella
to be closely related to the
Persea
feeders since the host plants are somewhat related. The weevil
Odontopus calceatus
mines leaves of both Magnoliaceae and Lauraceae, though it isn't recorded from
Persea
specifically. I'd love to have my
Phyllocnistis
specimens from
Liriodendron
and
Magnolia
barcoded if somebody was willing to do it; maybe that would help clarify the situation. I've always been perplexed why Davis & Wagner attributed leaf mines found in South Carolina to
P. subpersea
when they gave no indication of how mines of that species would be distinguished from mines of
P. longipalpa
, which they said only occurs in Florida.
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Charley Eiseman
, 9 February, 2020 - 12:09pm
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Thank You
That was very helpful!
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Steve Nanz
, 5 June, 2012 - 4:24pm
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Update
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Charley Eiseman
, 12 December, 2013 - 8:11pm
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Looks similar to
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John R. Maxwell
, 14 December, 2011 - 9:31am
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It sure does
You might ask Terry and Bob to take another look...
here
is the original description of
P. liriodendronella
, and
here
is a mine like the one I reared this moth from. This is the only similar moth I see in Lyonetiidae (the species you had initially suggested), and it's only a superficial resemblance:
Maybe there's some difference between our two moths that I'm not seeing, but I'm certain mine is a
Phyllocnistis
.
Out of curiosity, are there any tulip trees planted near your house?
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Charley Eiseman
, 14 December, 2011 - 10:04am
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