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Baiting moths in bear country and photographing the baited area

Hi all,

I would like to expand my collection of photographed moths this coming season and was thinking about sugaring.
Does anyone have any advise about sugaring and bears?

Last summer I made butterfly bait in an old hummingbird feeder saucer and put it out a second story window. No problem with bears but no butterflies either.
I perfer shooting on my porch and not in the yard so I was thinking about putting in the area that is away from the light on a board perhaps. It would give me time to get in the house if I hear a visitor coming. But my main concern is to not create a problem bear.

I have lots of nocturnal visitors here. Has anyone had any other critters come by to inspect the activity?

My photography question is, if I spread the bait on a piece of plywood and stick it in the dark area of the porch am I going to get a lot of glare from the bait from using the flash?

Not an expert
but I'd suggest avoiding bears.

I think you can probably avoid glare from the flash on bait by holding it off to the side a bit. This sully works for me and you could practice by shooting something sitting on a window.

The alternative would be to temporarily catch things that come to the bait and move them to a different background.

By now, though, you've probably already worked something out, assuming you've avoided bears!

 
Actually tonight is the first
Actually tonight is the first night I am trying it. Thanks, I will try some practice shots as you suggested. No bears but I have a fox in heat nearby screaming her heart out for a man. It's kind of creepy actually since I can't see beyond my porch where I am set up and it's echoing off the hillsides. So far, all the mohts are going to the lights and avoiding the bait. I have a Phoebe nest with 4 hatchlings under the porch so I reduced my usual set up and am avoiding going on that end of the porch until they have fledged.

 
Just curious,
Barb: how did it go? I haven't yet gotten organized enough for bait but hope to sometime this month.

Got a recipe to share (rotten banana, cheap beer and..)?

 
Hi Steve, No luck here. I
Hi Steve,

No luck here. I tried it two different nights in early July and have had the bait out for butterflies during the day the entire month on days I have been home to watch. I have used various sugars and fruit syrups along with the banana and beer and then no beer thinking the beer was the problem. No butterflies and no moths. I haven't even gotten a bee or a wasp to look at it. The butterflies are around, the type that would visit bait that is. They bask and perch all around the yard but totally avoid the bait. I wonder why I am not having any luck? If it doesn't storm, I was going to try it again tonight.
I have not had any trouble with the animals. I did accidentally leave the butterfly dish out one night and a raccoon licked the dish clean and left sticky foot prints all over the patio.
Maybe tonight I will try putting the board in the dark section of the porch and see if the light is the problem.

 
Not an expert but I'd suggest avoiding bears.
That was funny.

Sorry, I grew up around bears, but I don't have any suggestions either. I don't know that sugaring will attract them. We found that if you shoot a loud gun around them enough they stop coming around.

Aren't all moths attracted to lights? I would just stick to doing some night photography. The results have been so great when I've tried it. Here is a picture of one set-up

 
Lights
attract many moths, but (as I understand it) there are also many that don't come to light very often.

So I've resolved to try bait as well. My only problem with mammals is discouraging the raccoons that are sure to be interested.

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