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Melanotus 2 - Melanotus indistinctus - male

Melanotus 2 - Melanotus indistinctus - Male
Pulaski County, Kentucky, USA
May 29, 2011
Size: 10.5 mm (elytra ~ 7.6 mm)
Collected at UV light.

Melanotus indistinctus or just M. communis?

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Moved
Moved from Melanotus.

Melanotus indistinctus
The genitilia look more like the indistinctus I have ID's from Pulaski Co., KY than communis. The median lobe is shorter; the apical blade on the lateral lobe is shorter and wider; and the emargination at the base of the blade seems more defined.
The lateral lobes don't look quite as wide as my specimen from the same place, but the slightest change in camera angle could affect that.
Yes, I think this is safe to call/move to indistinctus.

thanks!

 
thks Blaine!
I remembered you had said this species was in the previous batch I sent you, so I was hoping this would be it.

Melanotus communis
Hi Brad, from what memory tells me, this looks like communis to me. The later lobes look a bit long and slender for indistinctus. I have dissected indistictus from GA at home and will compare tonight when I get home (just to be safe).

Honestly, I doubt the validity of indistinctus as a species. Several members of the communis-complex have variable genitilia so why shouldn't indistinctus just be a variable form of communis?!?!...

 
hold the fort...
I'm confusing indistinctus for miscellus (the latter of which I have dissected from GA)!! Ha ha.

While I do not have my reference at work, I do have my collection inventory. And the last batch of clickers you sent from Pulaski Co., KY had: decumanus, dietrichi, and...indistinctus!

I have dissected specimens of all of those at home and will review tonight. The fact that you have sent me indistinctus from this county in KY is good support of its ID.

...I just finished the Melanotus descriptions for my SE work and there are 35 species here, so they're all floating around in my head now! LOL-

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