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Xanthorhoe abrasaria - Hodges#7370 (Xanthorhoe abrasaria)
Photo#634652
Copyright © 2012
Michel Kleinbaum
Xanthorhoe sp. -
Xanthorhoe abrasaria
Salem, Marion County, Oregon, USA
April 23, 2012
best I could do matching this image.
Not a good image but the only one I got.
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Contributed by
Michel Kleinbaum
on 28 April, 2012 - 1:29pm
Last updated 28 April, 2012 - 3:59pm
Looks like...
The lines are not really correct for
Xanthorhoe abrasaria
. These three images (below) all seem to be like something closer to
Xanthorhoe defensaria
or
Xanthorhoe lacustrata
. Please double-check this, since it is such a difficult genus.
Notice that the lines are closer to each other (spacing) and smoother overall, with a large inner-bend on the PM lines, near the middle.
OK, you can tell me what you think about this, before we move them, thanks!
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Bob Biagi
, 23 January, 2023 - 8:44am
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I'm not sure on that.
I sent several of these pale Xanthorhoes into BOLD because I was sure they were something like abrasaria, but they all came back as Xanthorhoe defensaria which I had thought was always darker!
Maybe wait for someone else who knows more about them before putting it to species?
L
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Libby & Rick Avis
, 28 April, 2012 - 2:03pm
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I agree
I just posted what I think is X. abrasaria the first one in nine years and thousands of specimens, with six other species of Xanthorhoe, many with DNA and all from the same backyard. This specimen (634652) looks like what MPG and experts are calling X. packardata and I have referred to in the past as X. macdunnough. It seems there are a couple of other specimens listed as X. abrasaria which might be other Xanthorhoe species (e.g. 556110).
mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=7369
This is tough group for me also and I would bet there is also hybridization going on as timings overlap here where I get the various species. The X. abrasaria from here does seem to have a unique dark and white pattern but not really colored. I consider the ID somewhat tentative and will report the DNA results later when I save up enough lunch money to pay for the sequencing. I also, Libby, received back a lot of X. defensaria sequences from the DNA runs. Here is my Flickr reference page with the various Xanthorhoe and other moths between 7361-7444 from here:
www.flickr.com/photos/76798465@N00/sets/72157635076868064/
Keep up the good work
Dick
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Dick Wilson
, 22 August, 2014 - 5:17pm
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Xanthorhoes
Xanthorhoes give me a headache and I am usually wrong with my ID's
Thanks
Michel Kleinbaum
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Michel Kleinbaum
, 28 April, 2012 - 2:11pm
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Yes,
I know what you mean - they give me a headache too!
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Libby & Rick Avis
, 28 April, 2012 - 2:29pm
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