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Ellipsoptera marginata? - Ellipsoptera - male

Ellipsoptera marginata? - Ellipsoptera - Male
Yankeetown, Levy County, Florida, USA
May 18, 2012

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More pics?
Could you post a photo showing the first pair of legs (males have whitish setal pads on the tarsi), a more lateral photo of the mandibles, and maybe a lateral view of the body? E. hamata is extremely similar, and I'd like to rule it out. Male E. marginata have a peculiar extra tooth on the right mandible that hamata lacks.


The elytral tips appear to be male (females of both species have diagnostic structural differences here), but I can't make out the tooth, so this one might be hamata. Thanks.

 
Pics today...
Ben,

I'll get the pictures uploaded today. I think I can enough detail for you without having to focus stack. Easier that way!

 
Those are helpful
It is definitely a male. I hate to ask, but can you get a lateral view of the mandible (with the head in full profile)? The leg is actually obscuring the most important part, the tip of the right mandible where the extra ventral tooth would be. I still suspect it is hamata.

Here are two pics of E. marginata I added that show the tooth I'm referring to. It's the antler-like tine underneath the tip of the mandible. Male E. hamata does not have this, and neither do females of either species.

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Looks like it to me.

I'm in FL too.

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