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Fate of images

1. After being posted, my images show up on the Guide pages of whatever species (or genus) I had suggested in my comment. The problem is, they remain there even if my suggestion had been wrong and a correct ID was made. I wished I knew how to remove such images from the wrong Guide page – I just can’t figure out how.
2. Some posted images remain without comment, perhaps because a single photo did not allow an ID, or the photo was inadequate, or the species level of a genus (or even the genus assignment) is still unsettled, or because no sufficiently knowledgeable contributor looked at it. If the posts would list the number of “hits,” I would at least know whether they were looked at and, if so, could conclude that whoever looked at it was unable to provide an ID with any confidence.

I would grateful for any comment.

First, you are free to move any of your images
anywhere, anytime. If you move them to the wrong guide page, eventually they will get moved correctly. The process can be found under the Help tab. Click on the word TAG under your image or TAG ALL if you have submitted more than one image of a specimen. Go to the guide page where you want your image to appear and click on IMAGES. You should now see an option for Move Tagged Images. One click on that and your images should be moved to the page you have chosen.

The second question is harder. If the right volunteer looks at your image, it may get ID'd and moved to the guide within minutes. Some images take years to get ID'd. Seems like the record for waiting for an ID is around 8 years now! It's a question of whether the image shows what is needed for an ID, whether the person who identifies most of the images in that group is off on vacation themselves, or out in the field doing collecting themselves, whether we even have someone who does IDs for that group.

The best bet is to try to find that creature again and get even better images, upload them, -- and wait. Wish we had a better answer for you, but everyone who does IDs on this site does it as a volunteer. If you submit a bug that somebody likes, it will get ID'd. If you submit a plain drab worn moth, you may have to wait years.

EDIT - We just looked and see that you do actually submit images of moths. Unfortunately that is one of the toughest groups. We have a number of good moth specialists, but way more moth images posted than they can keep up with. There are probably some 3500 moth images on ID Request or posted to the base moth page. With 3500 images to ID, whether yours will catch someone's eye is really just a lot of luck. Sorry.

On the other hand, if you can ID moths, we're certain the specialists will appreciate any help you can give them.

One last thought: We would guess that you are more likely to get an ID for a moth if it is on the Moth page than if it is buried deep in the guide on a family or genus page. Feel free to move your images back out to the base Moth page.

"We have a number of good moth specialists"
Just going by IDs that my moth photos get, that number is 3.

Thank you, but...
Thank you for the clarification, well, not quite (or didn't I get it?). What I noticed is that any suggestion I make in my comment when posting is enough to immediately put the image into that particular Guide Page. Under the "lucky" circumstance that an ID is provided, and it turns out to be different from my suggestion, the image goes into the correct Guide Page but remains in the wrong one, seemingly forever. How can I get it out of there and leave it in the correct one??
P.S. The "wrong page" I refer to is not the Species Page but the Matching Image page - but it still is an awkward place to stay in if the image is not "matching" at all.

Don't confuse guide pages with search results
When you do a search, the system makes up a page with thumbnails of all the images that match the search terms. This isn't really an actual place in the Bug Guide data structure, but a temporary collection of images and links that match the search. If you say "I think this is a Madeupnamia somewherelsensis" in the comments on your picture, the database now has the words "Madeupnamia" and "somewherelsensis" in the text that goes with the image. Since the search function works by checking the text that goes with images for the same combination of letters as you put in the search box, a search for "Madeupnamia" or "somewherelsensis" will of course return a results page containing your image. Some people go so far as put*ting as*terisks in names that they're just mentioning in order to avoid this, but most of us consider the practice a distracting waste of time.

Now, if you click on the Taxonomy tab for an image that's been moved from ID Request, you'll see links to the real guide pages (or, at least, to the Taxonomy view for those pages). Strictly speaking, the guide pages are what you see when you click on the Info tab, but we also use the term to refer to the place in BugGuide's data structure that includes the guide page. If you click on the Images tab for the guide page, you'll see thumbnails of all the images that have been uploaded to, or moved to, that place in the guide.

The moral of the story is that a search doesn't take you directly to the guide page. To get there, you'll need to click on one of the image thumbnails, then on the appropriate tab at the top of the page for the umage. Either that, or click on one of the linked names in the Matching Guides section, etc.

Another way
You can also get to the guide page by checking the appropriate box on the page where you initiate a search. That often saves time by letting you skip the loading of photos.

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