Spider (unknown family) - Cyclosa turbinata

How do you feel about this one now?

… john and jane balaban, 14 July, 2012 - 5:53pm

Cyclosa turbinata

Yes, good call. I moved it.

… Lynette Elliott, 14 July, 2012 - 5:55pm

Moved to Cyclosa turbinata

Moved from ID Request.

… Lynette Elliott, 14 July, 2012 - 5:21pm

Araneidae?

All the leg spines are making me wonder if this is an orb weaver...

… Kyron Basu, 14 July, 2012 - 4:36pm

thx

I guess you were right!

… Frits Broekhuis, 14 July, 2012 - 5:24pm

male Cyclosa?

It reminds me of a male Cyclosa. I'll have to review the paper.

Edit - this is a dead ringer for Cyclosa turbinata male in Canada part 23. SO that probably means I have this one wrong

I'll work on that next.

… Lynette Elliott, 14 July, 2012 - 5:17pm

that makes perfect sense

because I found a Cyclosa female in the same spot. I thought the female was C. conica (that's the only Cyclosa species I'm familiar with), but looking at the pictures again, I see it has two humps on the abdomen, so I guess that must be C. turbinata too!

… Frits Broekhuis, 14 July, 2012 - 5:30pm

on the other hand...

however, my specimen doesn't resemble the above picture very well. Mine doesn't have the tubercle on the abdomen, and the above spider doesn't have the white spots. I'm confused...
Do you have literature describing the habitus of C. turbinata, Lynette?

… Frits Broekhuis, 14 July, 2012 - 8:05pm

I think you misunderstood my comment

image number 194907 (the above spider without white spots) was formerly ID's as C. turbinata. However, after IDing your image I realized that ID on 194907 was an error. I've since moved that image back out to the genus level.

… Lynette Elliott, 14 July, 2012 - 8:34pm

I see

thanks Lynette.

… Frits Broekhuis, 15 July, 2012 - 1:40am

Can't see the spines under the front legs

but what do you think of an unusual Theridiid - Asagena

The match is not as good as we would like, but maybe that's an age difference? Either that or Lynette will tell us we have the wrong genus!

… john and jane balaban, 14 July, 2012 - 4:15pm

Thx

Thanks for the suggestion J&J, as I didn't think of Theridiidae at all. However, looking at the legs of my specimen, I think they are a bit too spiney for a theridiid, but I could be wrong...

… Frits Broekhuis, 14 July, 2012 - 4:29pm

We were afraid of that

but now we're stumped. Gonna wait for Lynette's ideas!

… john and jane balaban, 14 July, 2012 - 4:39pm

We have a new look-alike pair

… Lynette Elliott, 14 July, 2012 - 5:48pm