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Spiderling ID? - Latrodectus mactans

Spiderling ID? - Latrodectus mactans
Seminole, Seminole County, Oklahoma, USA
Size: pinhead
Group of spiderlings on a web. Just wondering if these look like widow babies... or brown recluse babies? I have no issues with black widows... I have them on my porch and all around the outside and they don't bother me a bit... However, I'm not fond of brown recluse babies or otherwise. I'm honestly thinking these are NOT recluse babies... but just wanted an opinion. They appear red to the eye, but not so much in the pictures.

Moved to Latrodectus mactans
Moved from Widow Spiders.

pretty little red mactans sli
pretty little red mactans slings :)

Moved to widows
Moved from ID Request. Since it appears you've had both Northern & Southern in your area I'm moving these to genus level.

widow spiderlings?
I wouldn't rule out that possibility. Compare with

I'm thinking that is about right
They look the same. I know that there was a black widow under the shelf that the web is on... but it seems here in Oklahoma a Black Widow and the Brown Recluse don't mind sharing webs? I find them ALL the time on the same web area. Seems strange. Honestly, I'm glad they're widows. We have multiple of both each summer in and around our house. My children have not been bitten yet, amazingly...

black widow & recluse sharing webs
I'd like to see that if you can take some pics. It would be quite odd since the brown recluse is more of a ground spider... not really found in webs.

Widow & Recluse friends
I guess that's why I said "web area". I find them in the same places all the time on my porch (we live in a rural part of town). But also, I visited a state park where the eaves/soffit of the bathroom structures were COVERED with widows & webs and there were brown recluses all peppered in, just hanging out in the same space. They seemed to me to be in closer proximity than I thought would be "comfortable". Maybe because they don't actually get ON the web the widows don't "know"? Sounds silly, but I can't think of another way to put it! I'll see if I can find some to photograph for you a little later on today, or next time I see them together.

Other image
Oops, I hadn't realized the other image was a ventral shot. This does look similar.

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