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Home » Guide » Arthropods (Arthropoda) » Hexapods (Hexapoda) » Insects (Insecta) » Butterflies and Moths (Lepidoptera) » Owlet Moths and kin (Noctuoidea) » Erebidae » Litter Moths (Herminiinae) » Idia » Idia concisa of authors - Hodges#8323.1 (Idia concisa-of-authors)
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Herminiinae IMG_1412 - Idia concisa-of-authors
Copyright © 2012 Steve Nanz

Herminiinae IMG_1412 - Idia concisa-of-authors
Pymatuning Lake, Crawford County, Pennsylvania, USA
July 9, 2011
8333 – Idia denticulalis?
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Contributed by Steve Nanz on 8 September, 2012 - 3:12pm
Last updated 2 November, 2015 - 6:55am

Moved to Idia "concisa"
Moved from Common Idia.

Tentative ID. See comments below.
… Steve Nanz, 2 November, 2015 - 6:55am login or register to post comments

Moved to Idia aemula
Moved from Toothed Idia.
… Steve Nanz, 2 November, 2015 - 4:38am login or register to post comments

Moved
Moved from Moths.
… Steve Nanz, 5 October, 2012 - 4:34am login or register to post comments

Idia denticulalis
My thought too. It's a bit lighter than most I've seen, but the dark marking along the inner margin of each forewing rules out any other Idia as far as I know...
… Paul Dennehy, 4 October, 2012 - 2:16pm login or register to post comments

 
8323 – Idia aemula?
I'm having second thoughts on this one. I think this may to turn out to be Idia aemula. The shape of the transverse lines seem to fit that species better and the reniform lacks the curved black line running through it seen in denticulalis. I checked the BIN cluster for aemula at BOLD here and found several similar examples with a similar "dark marking along the inner margin".
… Steve Nanz, 2 November, 2015 - 4:37am login or register to post comments

 
Idia "concisa"
Tentative ID. I see now that the similar images in that BIN are identified as concisa. These specimens form one branch in the taxon tree. My guess is that this undescribed species erroneously identified as concisa will eventually get lumped into aemula.
… Steve Nanz, 2 November, 2015 - 7:02am login or register to post comments

 
Thanks
It looked to light to me too which was why I questioned myself on the ID. I just now took a closer look at the original file to see if I messed up on the exposure. I don't think I did but I see now that the paler areas appear worn. Perhaps it was darker when fresh.
… Steve Nanz, 5 October, 2012 - 4:41am login or register to post comments

Re: Herminiinae IMG_1412
That's what I would say, although I'm hardly an expert.
… Jay Greenberg, 8 September, 2012 - 5:17pm login or register to post comments

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