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Therion
Photo#739675
Copyright © 2013
Ken Sproule
Wasp -
Therion
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
June 27, 2008
Size: approx. 2 cm
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Contributed by
Ken Sproule
on 22 January, 2013 - 10:28am
Last updated 22 January, 2013 - 11:51am
Moved
Moved from
Ichneumon Wasps
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Bob Carlson
, 22 January, 2013 - 11:51am
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v belov
, 22 January, 2013 - 11:17am
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Therion?
I'n no expert, but it looks similar to something I shot that has been tagged as genus Therion.
Curious to know where you found it (from Toronto myself)
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Michael Battenberg
, 22 January, 2013 - 11:17am
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Thanks to all for the id. I g
Thanks to all for the id. I got this picture in the Highway 7 / Leslie area where I used to work. I'm curious about the difference between Therion (morio species for instance) and Thyreodon atricolor. I see at least one picture in the guide was moved from Thyreodon atricolor to Therion morio but all the pictures of T. atricolor in the guide seem to have black legs and the Therion species have black and yellow legs. However
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shows Thyreodon atricolor with black and yellow legs.
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Ken Sproule
, 22 January, 2013 - 5:54pm
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Marshall
I just pulled out my copy of the Marshall book. His figure 543.1 is misidentified as
Thyreodon atricolor
and is clearly
Therion morio
. An even more atrocious misidentification in this book is that of the books figure 544.9, which is a species of Ichneumonini labeled as
Theronia hilaris
. I had wondered why I was seeing species of Ichneumoninae identified as
Theronia hilaris
on the web, when I happened to buy a copy of this book to help me identify flies that I had take photos of. It was correcting that misidentification which caused me to become involved with Bug Guide, and the very first image I submitted to Bug Guide was a male of
Theronia hilaris
. In addition to having the hind tibia yellow and black, the metasoma of
Therion morio
is much narrower in lateral aspect than that of
Thyreodon atricolor
.
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Bob Carlson
, 22 January, 2013 - 7:01pm
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Thank you! That clears things
Thank you! That clears things up for me.
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Ken Sproule
, 22 January, 2013 - 7:16pm
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You're Welcome
Incidentally, I also notice that Dr. Marshall has mislabeled his 545.7 as
Protichneumon grandis
; it is not
Protichneumon
but may actually be
Ichneumon devinctor
. His figure 545.5 which is labeled as
Ichneumon
may be
Protichneumon grandis
.
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Bob Carlson
, 22 January, 2013 - 7:36pm
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Thanks again. I've added thos
Thanks again. I've added those notes to my book (545.6 instead of 545.5 I assume)
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Ken Sproule
, 22 January, 2013 - 7:52pm
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545.6
Yes, not 545.5.
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Bob Carlson
, 22 January, 2013 - 8:02pm
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