Azenia edentata - Nocloa nanata

Moved

… A. Hendrickson, 17 August, 2023 - 3:54pm

Comments crossed

Hi Anne, maybe our messages crossed? Or the BG pages & comments aren’t updating properly. This image shows for me under Nocloa nanata but Comments show it was moved it out of Nocloa nanata. Regardless, I think Kevin Keegan knows his stiriines well, and especially Nocloa species. This looks like a good fit for N. nanata to me - I would vote to place (keep) it there.

… Sue Carnahan, 17 August, 2023 - 7:06pm

I am out of this one. I just moved it. I have never seen one. I will NOT frass.

… A. Hendrickson, 17 August, 2023 - 10:50pm

Moved

Moved from Azenia edentata. If nothing else the markings that still exist seem to match. Keep or frass?

… John R. Maxwell, 17 August, 2023 - 2:10pm

Nocloa nanata

I don’t think it should be frassed. It seems to me that N. nanata often looks “worn” - it’s not a heavily marked moth.

… Sue Carnahan, 17 August, 2023 - 3:23pm

I think this might actually b

I think this might actually be Nocloa nanata. Nocloines (and not stiriines) have extremely stubby prothoracic tibial and tarsal segments, with the tarsal segments generally being as long as they are wide (http://nearctica.com/moths/noctuid/psaphida/nocloa/nocloini.htm). The thicker body of this specimen also indicates it might be a Nocloa and not an Azenia

… Kevin Keegan, 21 May, 2016 - 3:46am

Thanks

Kevin: I'm under the weather for a while right now, but I'll attend to this when I'm feeling up to it. Thanks again for the info.

… Bob Beatson, 21 May, 2016 - 3:09pm

Sure! Feel better!

… Kevin Keegan, 21 May, 2016 - 3:13pm

Nocloa nanata?

It appears this still needs review :)

… Sue Carnahan, 17 August, 2023 - 12:04pm

Hi Sue,

Glad to hear from you again.

I think we should just move it back to Owlets. It is so worn that I don't think we should place it at all or Frass it.

What do you think?

… A. Hendrickson, 17 August, 2023 - 12:33pm

Placement

It seems to look out of place here. Let's move it and see if the markings match better. Then decide, keep or frass.

… John R. Maxwell, 17 August, 2023 - 2:09pm

Thank you. Great ideas. I will move it.

… A. Hendrickson, 17 August, 2023 - 3:53pm

Moved

Moved from ID Request.

… Bob Beatson, 16 February, 2013 - 5:50pm

I'm a beginner

But it looks like one of the Azenia's to me. Maybe a worn Azenia edentata, Hodges #9726? They are in your area.

… A. Hendrickson, 16 February, 2013 - 5:24pm

Looks like

you got it! I checked another of the genus that occurs here, A. implora and edentata looks like a closer match - thanx!

… Bob Beatson, 16 February, 2013 - 5:48pm

Beginner

Hope you didn't take my suggestion as an ID. I am not qualified to give and ID. Glad you agreed with my opinion.

… A. Hendrickson, 16 February, 2013 - 5:59pm