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What type of spider are these? - Hogna carolinensis

What type of spider are these? - Hogna carolinensis
Maricopa County, Arizona, USA
May 23, 2013
We found these two had drowned in our pool overnight. They are quite large and so we wanted to find out exactly what type of spider they were.

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What type of spider are these? - Hogna carolinensis What type of spider are these? - Hogna carolinensis

Moved
Moved from Wolf Spiders.
I still don't know why some of these have cream colored venters, I'm going to keep moving them to Hogna carolinensis in the meantime so that they're all in one place if/when we figure out what's going on noting this may be another species.

Moved
Moved from Spiders. I think this might be on of the Geolycosa.

None of the wolf spiders in America are known to be dangerous.

 
How about ...
Hogna carolinensis?

 
I don't think so
the specimen seems to have a white/cream venter. I think H. carolinensis is supposed to be black.

 
That's something I've been wondering about,
the one I've linked to for comparison also has a pale venter with little black.

 
Yes
I know. I don't know what to say about that one. I had moved that one to Hogna coloradensis based on that venter, but Jeff moved it back. I can't remember what the reasoning was.

 
2 of the ...
ones filed with the pale ventral are from AZ (both Jeff's) and another from NC. So it appears to be a species that is both native to NC and AZ if that helps. If these are anything like the Tigrosas the ventral designs vary a lot - I suspect they get darker with age, the carapace has the most consistent features. I guess I'll ask around and see what I can find out.
Edit: The one from NC is only noted as being "most likely" from there having been posted on behalf of someone who is deceased. So that one is questionable.

Moved
Moved from ID Request.
Moved for further review.

wolf spider
Hogna of some type. i don't see the black venter characteristic of Hogna carolinensis, so I am not exactly sure which species you have. Harmless, not unusual for wolf spiders to end up in the bottom of pools.

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