Another shot of it. - Dasysyrphus intrudens

Moved

… john and jane balaban, 3 August, 2020 - 10:43am

Moved

… Ted Kropiewnicki, 5 February, 2009 - 8:30pm

Syrphid fly

Well, initially I thought I knew the species, but now, looking closer, I don't even know what genus this is:-) It is in the Syrphidae family, though, and I know a couple folks who could put a name to it.

… Eric R. Eaton, 15 October, 2004 - 6:19pm

Syrphid fly

Eric. You amze me, I was relying on you to name this one for me. I certainly have had a few different species around the garden.

… Kildale, 15 October, 2004 - 7:14pm

Dasysyrphus

Surely a female fly from the subfamily Syrphini.
If I think of the species I know from Europe, this would surely be a species from the genus Dasysyrphus!
In your part of the world there are 7 species of this genus, so I would look in this group if I were you!
Greetings,
Gerard pennards

… Gerard Pennards, 30 January, 2005 - 1:24pm

Dasysyrphus osburni!

Would be my educated guess anyhow!
Greetings,
Gerard

… Gerard Pennards, 28 February, 2005 - 1:10pm

I think Dasysyrphus osburni i

I think Dasysyrphus osburni is Palearctic and I would place this in intrudens complex..

… Bill Dean, 1 August, 2020 - 5:22am

This is in the Dasysyrphus intrudens complex

Dasysyrphus osburni is Palaearctic. Michelle and I looked at Palaearctic taxa when she did her revision of Nearctic Dasysyrphus (Locke MM, Skevington JH. Revision of Nearctic Dasysyrphus Enderlein (Diptera: Syrphidae). Zootaxa. 2013;3660:1-80) so we are pretty confident that osburni is not found in North America. Having said that, we have no DNA for osburni to support our contention so more work is needed. This specimen is part of the Dasysyrphus intrudens complex. We tried very hard to crack this complex but could not. It clearly involves multiple species but the DNA and morphology do not align - at least not the characters that we were focused on. I have been collecting all that I see into ethanol so that we can do a multi-gene study and try to crack this. It will take a few years to get enough material amassed for this study unfortunately.

… Jeff Skevington, 3 August, 2020 - 10:33am