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Photo#800490
coleopteran? - Psyche casta - female

coleopteran? - Psyche casta - Female
Gilpin, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania, USA
June 26, 2011
Size: 3 mm excluding ovipositor
Two specimens were collected from the one Malaise trap sample.

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coleopteran? - Psyche casta - female coleopteran? - Psyche casta - female

Moved
Moved from Psyche casta.

Moved
Moved from Arthropods.

It's a moth
Psyche casta: Psychidae. I posted a link on Facebook, and someone in Sweden notified me of the ID, which was actually provided by an unnamed colleague. So, I'm just reporting it as a third party.

 
YEP!
Just talked to Dan, and he informed me someone at ECN informed him someone told him it was posted on line and then a European person IDed it and that someone knew the species but he didn't have it with him so he'll tell me what it is when we get back to Wisconsin :) (We're in Austin for ESA at the moment.) I laughed when I heard how it got identified, I didn't realize so many people wanted to know what it was! We do have the specimen, and it is much hairier than it appears in this image.

 
Wow
Seems about right. Here's one in the guide for comparison:

 
Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Never thought o
Ahhhhhhhhhhh! Never thought of that! Thanks, I feel much better now knowing what it is!
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Psyche_casta_female.jpg

mengenillid strepsipteran
Well, actually I have no idea, but wanted to emphasize that conserving the rest of the sample may be critical to determining host if indeed it is a parasitoid of some sort. It does not appear to be a strong flyer, so how did it get in the trap?

 
now this is a great call
not that i've seen any mengenillids, but this solves the mystery how could this thing make its way into the trap!

 
May get the sample.
As far as I know Mengenillids do not occur in North or South America.

Dan informed me the other day that we may be getting this specimen in the mail soon. I'll let you know if he does and what he has to say about it.

 
Just showed the pic to Hans P
Just showed the pic to Hans Pohl, one of the leading Strepsiptera experts (he had a colony of Mengenillids in his lab), and he is sure that this is not a Strepsipteran. He thinks it is a beetle...Can you do some sequencing in your lab, when you have the specimen?

 
great news --thanks

Are you willing to send it to us?
Dan Young took a look and is stumped but says he'd love to take a look at it if you can mail it here.

445 Russell Laboratories
1630 Linden Drive
Madison, WI 53706

Tom, do you still have the sa
Tom, do you still have the sample? Are you trying to sequence it, to see what it could be? Still could not come up with a order for this...
Cheers
Martin

We don't think anyone will look here
for images to ID. Should we move this back to ID Request?

 
I don't think it makes much of a difference
I think approximately the same (small) number of people periodically check "Arthropods" as are checking the last page of ID Request. Additional photos are probably the only way to get this thing identified.

Moved
Moved from ID Request.
Please fix the date.

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