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Photo#80818
Sharing a meal - Phoebis philea

Sharing a meal - Phoebis philea
Gainesville, Alachua County, Florida, USA
October 1, 2006
Size: 40 mm approx (both)
These two have been sharing this Senna flower for several days. When I first saw them the Orange-barred Sulphur (left) was considerably smaller than the Cloudless Sulphur (right), but it has caught up and will probably overtake its cousin in size in the next couple of days.
You can see how the Cloudless Sulphur has blue rather than black stripes, and much shorter spines than the Orange-barred Sulphur. This is the yellow form of each species.

Images of this individual: tag all
Sharing a meal - Phoebis philea Sharing a meal - Phoebis sennae

Strange, but my orange-barred
Strange, but my orange-barred sulphur looked like the specimen on the right rather than the left.

 
That is very strange
- are you sure? I'm very confident of the ID of your adult (below left). Cloudless Sulphur (below right) doesn't have all the same markings (e.g. note black smudge on the front of the leading edge of the hindwing). Not to mention the size you gave fits Orange-barred much better. Plus, you said your caterpillar was green. These are both yellow forms. Check out the green forms on the images page for these species.


 
Well
All I can say is that the caterpillar on the right looks just like the one that became my Orange-Barred Sulphur specimen. The chrysalis as well. I did say green, but it was a bright, yellowish green, I should have been more specific. Maybe we can get a third party to help untangle this. ;o)
~Kort

 
How about this for comparison
pre-pupal orange-barred:



The green form looks like this (there's a bit of variation in the spot pattern):



It's hard to get a second opinion without an image of the caterpillar - however, with only the adult image to go on, I just don't see anything to suggest it's not a female Orange-barred Sulphur, do you?

 
Nope. Your pre-pupal orange-
Nope. Your pre-pupal orange-barred does not look like the one that turned into my female Orange-barred Sulphur. The caterpillar at the top right does. I'm not sure what I can tell ya there when you are saying that it is a Cloudless caterpillar. All I can go by was my experience.
this does make it all very interesting though. :)

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