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False Katydid? - Scudderia curvicauda - male

False Katydid? - Scudderia curvicauda - Male
Mineral County, West Virginia, USA
July 3, 2004


False Katydid in Central Florida
I read that these things stay close to the coast.
We have them all over the place in our yard/trees

We have an acre adjacent to the forest about a mile from the St. Johns River. We are in West Volusia County a good 25 miles from the coast.

Got a good picture of a female on the side of our house. If I figure out how to upload it, I will show it off.

Bush katydid male
I've never heard of a "false" katydid. This is a male bush katydid of some kind, genus Scudderia. Without seeing the subgenital plate, it is impossible to name the species. Beautiful image, though!

Thanks, Eric.
I've moved it again, hopefully to where it best belongs. I surely didn't invent the category of "False" Katydid, but it is listed on the tree here and, unless I'm reading incorrectly, Scudderia falls under it on this tree. I'm a complete novice. Thanks for the helpful comments.

"False Katydids" = Phaneropterinae
"False Katydid" is a term used by some references to cover the Subfamily Phaneropterinae of the Family Tettigoniidae ("Katydids" or, perhaps better callled "Longhorn Grasshoppers). Phaneropterinae would include such genera as Ambylcorypha, Scudderia, and Microcentrum, among others. The term simply serves to differentiate these genera from the "true katydids", in the subfamily Pseudophyllinae.

This term is used, for instance, at the Univ. of Florida's Singing Insects of North America, as well as by some print references.

The general tendency of Bugguide is to use English (common) names where available--Troy has that in an editorial note somewhere. Subfamilies, are, of course, often problematic, and English names for subfamilies even more so.

Patrick Coin
Durham, North Carolina

Thanks, Patrick.
This makes sense to me. I'm glad that I was apparently reading the tree properly.

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