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Tibicen lyricen?  - Neotibicen similaris

Tibicen lyricen? - Neotibicen similaris
Ormond Beach, Volusia County, Florida, USA
September 8, 2013
Size: 2 inches total
Four images will be uploaded for this single cicada. The cicada was found on my back patio the evening of Sunday 08 September 2013. I live in Ormond Beach, Florida (a little less than four miles from the Atlantic). My neighborhood is heavily wooded with pines, oaks, and palms. We've got it all, heh. I assume this is T. lyricen? If so, is this consistent with Tibicen lyricen virescens patterning? I hesitate to tag it at all, as there is much I don't know about cicadas and I could easily be missing something obvious. Any help identifying this would be greatly appreciated.

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Actual specimen has been reviewed and...
Actual specimen has been reviewed and is absolutely T. similaris, and a quite large & colorful one at that.

The other images prided by this contributor also appear to be similaris given coloration and traits.

These guys can vary in size and color. I have seen them fall between davisi and lyricen in size across most parts of the east coastal range and even larger than lyricen in FL, esp. in areas along the FL "Highland Ridge", FL "Big Bend" and central Panhandle.

Very cool!
That's one awesome population of T. similaris that Ormond Beach, FL has there! I'm gonna' hafta' get me one of those!


Moved from Lyric Cicada.

side note...Tibicen similaris?
Similar in appearance and often confused with several related taxa, incl. davisi, australis and lyricen, T. similaris can be a wild card to id from pic's.

T. similaris "usually has a black pronotal collar" (as seen here); however, that trait does not hold up 100% across the range.

Most specimens I have seen and collected are much more muted in color than the cicada pictured here. The greens are usually duller (pea green to taupe) and there is usu. more of a brownish cast across the insect. However, with that said, the amount of green in the legs and the touch of green to the lateral edges of the pronotal collar are strongly suggestive of similaris.

Additional notes...The image of the female from this site has a reduced ventral black stripe more typical of similaris (Ahhh ??). Unfortunately, we cannot see the venter of the male from this locality, but if we could, the opercula would absolutely be diagnostic.

The opercula of lyricen are oblique (short and round) and reddish-tan in color while those of the similaris group are elongated and ochreous to reddish tan ...often similar in shape to the opercula seen in tibicen (chloromerus)/australis or superbus.


And although scattered reports of T. lyricen lyricen have been reported across the Florida peninsula, this locality is surrounded by populations of lyricen fitting the typical virescens form.

They could be a hybrid of vie
They could be a hybrid of vieresens /coastal form and lyricen form lyricen! even if lyricen form lyricen does not exist in the state now it may have in the past and this may be the case? It looks like a lyricen x australis but those can not hybridize!

Lyricen nominate is in FL
Lyricen nominate is in FL across the panhandle and north to adj. sc & sw GA...then north and west across the se. US...and beyond.

The ssp. virescens is found in the FL peninsula and along the se. Atl. coast in GA, SC & possibly se NC but most of those seen in NC are transitional in appearance.

Moved from ID Request.

Did you keep this one?
Would love to get a close look at these and save a few for later DNA comparisons.

Quick answer: Yup. It'll ship
Quick answer: Yup. It'll ship tomorrow. Bam!

Yes, it looks like a female T. Lyricen to me, too, but...
I'm vacillating around, so my comments are going to reflect it:

With all that gold dusting, this looks like a recently emerged cicada. So, I am wondering if maybe that is why the pronotum has so much green in it? Also of interest, the ventral stripe is less well-defined than what I am accustomed to seeing and has me wondering about whether-or-not this is closer to a T. tibicen?

However, everything else I am seeing (especially the browns on the mesonotum and the lack of really green legs) still swings my needle towards the T. Lyricen.

Naturally, Bill Reynolds is far more experienced with the nuances of Floridian cicadas than I am, so I would wait for his input--especially since this might be a subspecies.

If in the Tibicen lyricen group then....
This population is STRANGE!

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