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Unidentified Moth - Cacotherapia

Unidentified Moth - Cacotherapia
Hobe Sound, Martin County, Florida, USA
September 15, 2013
Size: 6 mm
Not even sure what family this moth belongs to. Any help is greatly appreciated. See also here.

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Moved from Pyralid Moths.

Thanks Kyle
Cacotherapia looks right for this moth, the ID of which has bothered me for some time. Thanks for identifying another "mystery moth". Only two species of Cacotherapia are reported to occur in Florida. This moth does not seem to be unipuncta but tentatively does resemble unicoloralis. What do you think?

Moved from Pyraloidea.

Moved from Phycitinae.

Moved from Moths.

I think this might be in the Genus Vitula.

Thanks again Ann
Thanks again Ann for working with some of my unidentified moth photos! I have posted an additional photo of the left side of this moth which shows a spot missing from the other side. I now think this is more likely a crambid and might be Loxocrambus canellus 5427 (or near) which you identified for me before. I also have additional photos of this moth and L. canellus, all of which seem to me to be the same somewhat variable species. What do you think?

I wish Maury Heiman would see this one.

To tell the truth, I was not positive of the L. canellus ID, but I felt I could defend it. I do not see an AM and PM line on the L. canellus photo. I am just a "photo identifier" not an expert with access to/knowledge of academic papers and contacts. However I found another usual one that is from Florida, . You would have to look at the MPG page and the Mississippi Ent. Museum spread to see why I might think this is a possibility. I am out of my depth here! I do realize that the palps on this moth don't look very Phycitinae but I thought some of the other Vitulas didn't either.

There aren't enough photographs of identified specimens to establish variability. I will try to go to BOLD to see what I can dredge up.

I went to BOLD and did find any records of either species. Deadend for me.

Thanks Ann for your efforts
After looking further, I am pretty sure that this is the the same species that we identified as Loxocrambus canellus. I have photos of four individuals. Each shows a different level of AM and PM line expression- from none to well-developed. More material would be helpful, and I will look for more examples of this moth. In the meantime I am moving this to Pyraloidea, where it certainly belongs.

Moved from ID Request.