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Wolf Spider - Hogna carolinensis

Wolf Spider - Hogna carolinensis
Tex Canyon, Cochise County, Arizona, USA
July 23, 2013
Size: ~2" body
Found in juniper savanna being dragged by a wasp. Frank Kurczewski is thinking Entypus aratus or texanus on the wasp. I'm thinking Hogna sp. On the spider. Looking for input on the spider species.

Wasp image here

Moved from Spiders.

Hogna coloradensis is another possibility, I don't think I can place it past genus without a ventral.

This is the same spider pictured above:

I was wondering ...
about that, I checked but saw they were submitted by two different people and thought it was a coincidence. I see now you were mentioned in the other submission. :)

Wolf Spider (Lycosidae)
Moved as per Lynette's request.

It does appear to be a Hogna species; however, without a ventral shot, it is very hard to get it down to species. Judging from the size, it appears to be an adult female. If I have to guess, I would say this is a Hogna carolinensis for Western and Southern individuals have a coloration similar to the one you have. From my observations, Northern populations tend to be more grey-brown to even bluish rather than having such high patterning and a sepia toning.

Western/Southern H. carolinensis:

Northern/Midwestern H. carolinensis:

There also is a possibility that this is a Hogna antelucana

Moved from ID Request.

Looking at the characteristics for Hogna sp. This spider does have the black behind the knees on the front legs. You can kind of make it out in this shot. Would that be enough to make the call on H. carolinensis? I emailed Aaron Schusteff, he also photographed this pair and may have some better shots.

Laura P.
has been studying these a lot lately. I'd like to see what she thinks.

I posted a series w/ ventral shots
...per Alice's request. Same individuals (wasp & spider) as in Alice's post above. See thumbnail below:

Hope that helps.

Yes, that's great. Those will help a lot.

Big wolf spider
Actually Florida specimens of "H." carolinensis look more like the northern/Midwestern form pictured (not like western/southern form), in that they are definitely gray dorsally and they lack much pattern. I strongly suspect that the western form will eventually be shown to be a different species.

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