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Photo#887768
 Phaeoura - Phaeoura - male

Phaeoura - Phaeoura - Male
Santa Rita Mountains / Madera Canyon, Pima County, Arizona, USA
July 26, 2013

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Moved from ID Request.

Phaeoura Pharaohs
Whadya think ... P. mexicanaria or P.perfidaria? I think Marcia got it right on the genus.

Phaeoura
something like Phaeoura mexicanaria - Hodges #6766


 
Thanks so much Marcia!
for you help and consideration.

I think Phaeoura looks like a match!

P. perfidaria #6768 also occurs in the area we found these. I can't find too much info on it, but, like the ones we found, it has a PM Line on the HW that is mostly straight from the inner margin, whereas P. mexicanaria curves quite a bit. I don't know if that makes a difference?

This area that we did BugSwarm 2013 was fantastic! It had so many species that were unique to that area. There were some generalists, but it seemed a majority were specific, and not found in many other places in the U.S.

 
I think you are right
when I first saw the moth, it reminded me of the Oak Beauty which is common here in Virginia, which is what led me to the Phaeoura genus ... I don't know much about the genera, but I wonder if the hollow orbicular spots might help to identify the species, too ... P. perfidaria has hollow orbicular spots, so that seems to fit your two specimens.

I would have loved to attend last year's gathering, but alas, the miles between made it too difficult. I'm enjoying everyone's posts from Arizona, thought!

 
I really like Phaeoura
for this one, and am so thankful for you finding that one.

In 2013 we went to BugSwarm in Arizona and Mothapalooza in Ohio. They were both well worth it. We just got our notice from Mary Ann Bartlett about sign-up for Mothapalooza 2014. If you didn't get to go, I hope you get a chance this coming year. Everyone was top notch, including David Wagner and Seabrooke Leckie as well as all the best of Ohio experts.

 
Without a good shot of the hi
Without a good shot of the hind wings it is hard to say. I would put money on a male P. cristifera though. Certainly Phaeoura, certainly a male. P. cristifera is very common in Madera Canyon at that time of the year. Unfortunately only the females are distinctive with white.

 
Thanks Evan!
To keep it straight, I'd better place this in genus only.

Your help and expertise is most appreciated!

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