Egg case? - Stagmomantis carolina

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Moved from Unidentified Oothecae and Hatchlings.

… Tim Turner, 17 September, 2017 - 4:54pm

Stagmomantis carolina

Stagmomantis carolina

“Praying Mantises of the United States and Canada”
https://www.researchgate.net/project/Praying-Mantises-of-the-United-States-and-Canada

… Kris Anderson, 17 September, 2017 - 4:38pm

Thank you

for the ID and link, Kris. I have bookmarked the latter

Since posting this image a few years ago I have photographed several Stagmomantis carolina in my yard, including one I watched fail in an attempt to take a skipper on a butterfly bush just an hour or so ago (it grabbed it off a flower, but the skipper somehow managed to struggle free).

… Tim Turner, 17 September, 2017 - 4:54pm

Tenodera angustipennis versus Stagmomantis carolina?

Just in case Charley or John are still subscribed to this as yet unidentified photo ... There has been some relevant discussion on the Bugguide Facebook page here concerning mantid oothecae, specifically comments by Margarethe Brummermann concerning the similar appearing Tenodera angustipennis and Stagmomantis carolina oothecae, the former ending in a drawn-out tail that is missing from the oval Stagomomantis cases. This one does appear to have a drawn out tail (the blur on the left), so I am seeking further opinion.

… Tim Turner, 3 March, 2016 - 12:46pm

That would be the other option

I don't have enough experience with either to be sure which this is, or whether it is always possible to distinguish the two.

… Charley Eiseman, 3 March, 2016 - 5:37pm

I suppose

the way to find out is, if I happen to find another, keep it and see what emerges. Either way it will be interesting, since I have identified neither Tenodera angustipennis nor Stagmomantis carolina as adults in my yard (I have ID'd many Tenodera sinensis, as well as seen their oothecae).

… Tim Turner, 3 March, 2016 - 9:33pm

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I agree with Charley; this is likely Stagmomantis Carolina.

… John Stanard, 15 May, 2014 - 10:17pm

Native Mantid

Thank you for the ID, Charley and John. I am going to have to learn to tell the Carolina, European and Chinese Mantids apart. Nice to know I have the native mantids in my yard.

… Tim Turner, 8 June, 2014 - 10:38am

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Moved from Unidentified Eggs and Egg Cases.
Mantid egg case (ootheca)--I'm thinking carolina.

… Charley Eiseman, 15 May, 2014 - 8:06pm