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Home » Guide » Arthropods (Arthropoda) » Hexapods (Hexapoda) » Insects (Insecta) » Butterflies and Moths (Lepidoptera) » Pyralid and Crambid Snout Moths (Pyraloidea) » Pyralid Moths (Pyralidae) » Phycitinae » Phycitini » Sarata Series » Lipographis
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Lipographis truncatella? - Lipographis
Copyright © 2014 BJ Stacey

Lipographis truncatella? - Lipographis
Nye County, Nevada, USA
May 24, 2014
I originally posted BAMONA. Remarks from the reviewer, "I think this might be Lipographis truncatella. L. truncatella is very rare with only a couple museum specimen and no live photos. The museum specimen are quite worn such that I can't make a definitive ID." He suggested that I post it here for additional thoughts.
The moth came to UV light we had set-up along the entrance road to Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge.
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Contributed by BJ Stacey on 31 July, 2014 - 8:21pm
Last updated 21 April, 2023 - 6:44am

Moved
Moved from Phycitinae. Definitely the right genus; could be undescribed.
… Aaron Hunt, 21 April, 2023 - 6:44am login or register to post comments

Moved
Moved from Pyralid Moths.
… A. Hendrickson, 4 January, 2017 - 7:10pm login or register to post comments

Ancylosis morrisonella?
It's the closest I can find, but the palps don't match the other live images online.
… Kyhl Austin, 4 March, 2016 - 7:30pm login or register to post comments

Moved
Moved from Crambid Snout Moths.
… Kyhl Austin, 18 December, 2015 - 4:38pm login or register to post comments

Moved
Moved from Moths.
… Marcia Morris, 2 September, 2015 - 5:44am login or register to post comments

Probably Phycitinae subfamily
I wandered through the entire image collection of Crambids and Pyralids on MPG and didn't find a close match. The closest I could come would be something like Ragonotia rotalis (Hodges #5902) but that's not even very close.

The shape, posture, and upturned palpi strongly suggest placement in the Pyralid subfamily Phycitinae typified by something like the genus Atascosa:
http://bugguide.net/node/view/444794/bgpage.

Some members of the subfamily Crambinae also have the same general shape with long palpi but they typically hold the palpi horizontal, or hold the whole body tilted forward, e.g.: http://bugguide.net/node/view/292775
but the moths don't read Bugguide.

Searching Google Images for Lipographis is not very informative. If anyone has access to the MONA fascicle on this group of Phycitine moths, that might be a key reference to check: Neunzig, H. H. 2003, Pyraloidea. Pyralidae (part), Phycitinae (part). In Dominick, R. B., et al., The Moths of America North of Mexico, fasc. 15.5. Allen Press, Lawrence, KS. 338 pp.

It's a cute little critter; I hope someone can offer a solid ID in the future.
… Chuck Sexton, 12 September, 2014 - 1:14pm login or register to post comments

doesn't resemble Lipographis truncatella
doesn't resemble Lipographis truncatella specimens at BOLD.
Hopefully this can be placed to species soon!
Thank for your patience.
… Maury J. Heiman, 29 August, 2014 - 6:56pm login or register to post comments

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