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Oenobotys vinotinctalis ? - Oenobotys vinotinctalis

Oenobotys vinotinctalis ? - Oenobotys vinotinctalis
Trinity River Refuge HQ building., Liberty County, Texas, USA
August 2, 2014
Looks good per MPG but somewhat out of range if it is indeed this moth.

Moved

 
Thanks
I probably should have moved these myself.

Moved
Moved from Wine-tinted Oenobotys.

The existence of this Texas species with the dark fringe was called to my attention by Valerie Bugh.

 
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Since Valerie Bugh told me that I had been misidentifiny the Wine-tinted one, I asked her to review this one. I think these are tricky.

 
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Add Chuck's here. I think that might be vinotinctalis too.

 
Valerie's Answer
"I think this one is either vino' or unresolved. If the obvious dark/white fringe is not evident, I'm hesitant to say it's texanalis. I'd only seen texanalis before last year, but the difference of a vinotinctalis was striking, at least with the individual I saw. These moths also seem pretty variable in color, with texanalis less so than vino' and photographic technique (light reflection mostly) can make the necessary details difficult to see. I wonder if the two species really are SPECIES and not just a regional variation."

Posted with her permission.

 
Compare
Compare with images by Riley, Bugh and Hoy in which the dark and pale areas of the fringes form two consistent and sharply delineated contrasting bands. The border between the dark and pale bands for this image and Chuck's is blurred with the dark band nearly obsolete and the pale band very yellowish. Monroe (1) seems to make this as the main difference between the two species.

 
Not Sure
The blurry lines and lack of sharply delineation between the dark fringe base and the lighter outer portion seems more consistent with some Florida examples of vinotinctalis.

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Moved from Pyraustini.

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Moved from Pyraustinae.

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