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Myzinum
Photo#994047
Copyright © 2014
Robert A. Behrstock
Myzinum? -
Myzinum
Hereford, W of Hwy. 92, lower Ash Canyon, Cochise County, Arizona, USA
September 9, 2014
SE Huachuca Mts., elev. Oak-grassland interface. 5010' Butterfly garden. On Cissus vine (Grape ivy).
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Contributed by
Robert A. Behrstock
on 10 September, 2014 - 12:48pm
Last updated 17 August, 2018 - 8:48pm
Moved back to M. carolinianum
Moved from
Myzinum carolinianum
.
Oh well...I tried! (And at least I learned something...and hopefully others can too from Bob's and my comments below ;-)
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Aaron Schusteff
, 17 August, 2018 - 8:48pm
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Moved
Moved from
Myzinum
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Aaron Schusteff
, 11 August, 2018 - 8:48pm
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Interesting apparent disjunct station for M. carolinum
Hi Robert...you've got yet another interesting post here :-)
The following discussion is based on Kimsey
(
1
)
(2009)...available
here
.
First-off, this myzine can be seen to be a male from: the 7-segmented abdomen with a conspicuous upturned, "hook-like" terminal spine (= "uncus"); long slender body; and relatively long, only mildly-curved (i.e. not coiled) antenna.
Next, it keys clearly to
Myzinum carolinianum
from: the closed marginal cell (i.e. the terminal segment of vein "Rs" reaches the wing margin...compare Figs. 3 & 6 on pg. 36 of Kimsey
(
1
)
(2009) with the 6th photo of your series); the 7th tergum has with medial longitudinal groove (zoom in on 1st & 2nd images); the wing membrane is largely hyaline, but darkened at tip (6th photo); and the 7th tergum is black, without yellow.
The problem is, Kimsey
(
1
)
gives the range of this species as "only in the southeastern U.S. from Maryland west to Kansas and south to Florida". (Note that the range map for
M. carolinianum
on pg. 38 of Kimsey
(
1
)
(2009) does show a number of "dots" in your area of AZ...but
none in the southeastern U.S.
, so maybe there's an error therein?)
Note that male
M. carolinianum
looks quite similar to male
M. quinquecinctum
, which
is
listed as occurring in AZ, but...reiterating what's conveyed in the key... Kimsey
(
1
)
(2009) states: "The wing membrane in
carolinanum
is weakly brown-tinted with a darkened wing tip; in
quinquecinctum
it is evenly amber-colored". This can be seen in the posts below:
carolinianum
quinquecinctum
So, per the key and discussion in Kimsey
(
1
)
, this goes to
M. carolinianum
.
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Aaron Schusteff
, 11 August, 2018 - 8:34pm
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Map Error
On
page 38
of that key, the range map #1 is a duplicate of map #6 on
page 39
. (
M. navajo
) The range for
Myzinum carolinianum
is listed as Florida to Texas, north to the Dakotas, Minnesota to Maryland.
All sightings of the females of
M. carolinum
are eastern only, so far. The groove on the 7th abdominal segment and also the coxa are very hard to see in most images of the males.
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Bob Biagi
, 11 August, 2018 - 9:27pm
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Thanks, Bob!
I had looked at the maps to see if maybe a copy-editor had made an inadvertent swap...but I hadn't thought to look for a duplicate map instead. Now that you pointed it out, it's clear that's what happened...good catch!
So the main question now is: Are Robert's (and
Salvador's
) finds truly range exensions? Or am I in error in identifying them both as
M. carolinianum
?
By zooming-in on Robert's 1st image here (via repeatedly pressing "Cmd-+" in a Mac browser, or "Cntl+" in a Windows one), I believe I can discern the medial groove in T7 fairly well. And at couplet 4 of the key, the "uniformly amber" vs. "hyaline w/ apical infuscation" distinction between the resulting two main candidates,
quinquecinctum
and
carolinianum
, seems pretty clear to me...as does the "dorsum of T7 with yellow" vs. "dorsum of T7 entirely black" discriminant.
But in Salvador's images I can't make out a medial groove on T7 ...and without that (and a appropriate view of the mid-coxa, as well as many genitalic details) Salvador's might key to any of
confluens, dubiosum, frontalis, maculatum
, or
navajo
and still fit range-wise!
I'll move Salvador's post back to genus, and inquire if he may be able to provide further diagnostic images...as he may still have the specimen.
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Aaron Schusteff
, 11 August, 2018 - 11:00pm
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BOLD
Yes, those five species might be "it" for Arizona. I'm not sure.
BOLD Systems has a few species bins for this genus now! He should send his specimens there, since his images are usually excellent examples.
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Bob Biagi
, 11 August, 2018 - 11:10pm
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Thanks, Bob...I now think I should move this back to genus!
I've now read Kimsey(2009) more carefully than I had when I made my previous comments, and realize I can't see enough detail to truly discern the crucial "medial groove on T7" character in the 2nd couplet of the key there.
I now believe what I
had thought
was the groove is probably just "highlighting" corresponding to the small cavity between the two lateral lobes at the apex of T7. From Fig. 11 in Kimsey(2009) the "groove or crease" should extend further from the sinus of that cavity (perhaps all the way to the suture at the base of T7?). I just can't make out enough detail in the above image to really verify the key character.
In fact, I can't clearly discern that "T7 groove" in
any
of the current BG posts for males of
M. carolinianum
or
M. quinquecinctum
...which should both have the groove according to the 2nd key break in Kimsey(2009). I also checked out the
BOLD
Myzinum
page
, and I can't make out the critical "medial groove on T7" character in their
M. carolinianum
image either...click the thumbnail below to scrutinize that image:
BTW, reading the discussion & distribution info in Kimsey(2009) carefully...it turns out 8 out the 10 species treated there are recorded from AZ (all except
carolinianum
and
obscurum
). And 6 of those 8 are recorded from Cochise County (all but
cocoritensis
and
fulviceps
). Among the 6 species in Cochise County, one might try to use the ocello-ocular + inter-ocellar distances and the length-to-width ratios of the 1st & 9th flagellomeres to narrow down the candidate species...but I can't really discern ocelli here (or in most other current BG posts), and the flagellomeres are also usually difficult to see clearly. That leaves only wing vein color and infuscation pattern to go on.
So it seems these are
indeed
harder to ID from typical field photos than I had thought & hoped!
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Aaron Schusteff
, 17 August, 2018 - 8:47pm
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Ken Wolgemuth
, 10 September, 2014 - 12:50pm
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